i think it is necessary that a coach has an active plan to win a game....any game....

OK, I think in light of what i've witnessed with Valencia vs Rosenberg, that Valencia are in crisis.  I mean no disrespect to Rosenberg, cause I think a good team is a good team, no matter where you come from like fenerbache, but Valencia losing 2-0 going and coming is pretty disgraceful for Valencia and spanish football.  They've forced me to chant for Real Madrid, so Spanish football doesn't lose ranking to either the italians or the english...

lmao, they are pretty pathetic atm aern't they??? i think valencia can bounce back. new manager, although i dun think much of koeman, we just have 2 give them time i suppose.

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lmao, they are pretty pathetic atm aern't they??? i think valencia can bounce back. new manager, although i dun think much of koeman, we just have 2 give them time i suppose.

koeman will turn them around  but he does need time

Funny thing is that Koeman can actually still get Valencia to qualify from the group stages of the Champions League, given that he has the players to do it...especially as i expect the results from the other games to go this way.

Group B

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lmao, they are pretty pathetic atm aern't they??? i think valencia can bounce back. new manager, although i dun think much of koeman, we just have 2 give them time i suppose.

koeman will turn them around  but he does need time

i dun think so lol. has he won a domestic title apart from that real close one last season?

well neither has Steve McClaren, but that didn't stop him from taking the England job ~ lol~  apparently he wasn't even a good footballer, i dunno....

I think he can get it turned around, but we'll get a first hand look in the next couple of weeks starting this weekend.

dus he have the potential to get valencia to qualify for the next stage of the champs league.

Valencia's qaulification to the next round is now getting harder...

They got to act and fast..

I wouldnt blame Koeman..he barely knows the team

Honestly, I think Valencia's qualification is very difficult after the last match, because they need to win and some other results, and normally that doesn't work in this kind of situation. But they can win the last two matches and wait. It's completely possible and i hope they'll make it anyway. Koeman will take this team to play good football in some weeks but it's still pretty soon. They will need to change some concepts because till now, they were still the strong defensive team we all knew, and when they failed to defend so well, the results were gone...a new way of playing needs more time...

seville's current replacement manager. how is he?

He is doing really well...

Sevilla could have been in a better position if it wasnt for the massacre if i should call it that came on them...

Indeed i didnt expect him to start well ..

he beated Real 2-0

if that's not good..what can be?

yea, but was that his 1st match in charge? usually 1st matches for managers always end up in victories.

Just after that, they won 0-2 against Steaua in Champions League and lost the next two matches in La Liga, against Villarreal (3-2) and Mallorca (1-2), drawing away with the modest 2nd Division B Denia (1-1), so not very well so far

Actually, i could be wrong, but I think Valencia's position is more guaranteed than Liverpool's position who should be officially knocked out today although stranger things have happened.  Valencia has to win their remaining games and they would qualify, while even if Liverpool win their remaining games, they might very well be out whlie they would most likely be guaranteed Uefa Cup football.

The scenario for Valencia is this: 

Group B

If Chelsea beats Rosenborg today as expected, and Valencia beat Schalke 04 like they need to, then the scores in green would be the end result, after the next day and Valencia again beats Chelsea would would've already qualified so not playing for anything but obligation, then the scores would be in red.  This is obviously going on the notion that Schalke who beat Rosenborg away can beat them at home too, while Schalke also have a chance to qualify for either Uefa cup or the next round are still playing for something even on the last day.  If Chelsea draws then it could all look bad if Valencia beat them in London.  However, Valenica NEEDS to win...

Did anyone notice that Sevilla should win their group...lol..Arsene Wenger is careless!  He surely do not want to be facing some of the group winners as 2nd place finishers