WHO AM I

 

            Who am I?  One would think of this as a silly question. But think really hard. Is it? We are not talking here about the movie where Jacky Chan (the hero), lost his memory and doesn’t know who he was. We are talking about the knowledge we have of ourselves. How lucky we are to have this knowledge and memory……

 

            Do I know myself will enough? Or do I see myself as I want to see myself, not of what I really am. 

 

            How about you? Do you know who you are?

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maybe...but do u noe who u are?

yes for 80%.  i am giving the unknown 20%. meaning there is still space for improvement. that's how much i know of myself.  and you??

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ahm m . i think i know my self that others'?(of course!)
but im not sure. . 

I Guess everyone is pretty much uknown, people only know or find out what that person wants them to know ... which doesnt mean its the truth or the real person hiding behind that skull 

absolutely right...there are four parts (a quarter of each) of knowledge with oneself.

What we know and what other know about ourselves

 

I Know   You Know	I Know   You Don’t know
I Don’t know   You know	I        Don’t know        You        Don’t know

 

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oh definetly, but in fairness...there is a constant distraction factor of people telling you what they think you should...pretty things, money, general attractions etc. that bombarde your environment, that it takes a strengtth and will to concentrate on yourself. 

No reason to use the distractions are excuses!  It is important to have daily reflections and quiet time in order to understand fully and focus on yourself and others seperately, afterall, we are individuals for a reason.

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JOGO BONITA!

i would think that this constant distraction really is generated from within oneself....have we ever tried being quiet? as in really quiet? I would doubt that ...unless one is used to really just let the world go....that is next to impossible...although i dont believe in that word. Even alone....the mind is so noisy that one cant really listen..unless as i have said...one is used to see deep within oneself.

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what you are talking about is self psychoanalysis.

The mind cant be silent. When there is silence there is no identity.  What you need to do with auto psychanalysis is listen to the noise. And after think why did i think this or that when i was not stimulated to think anything in particular. How did "this" thought specefically enter into my consciousness.

Its more complicated than that, but that are the basics of that practice. You must practice being still, without moving in a position for 10-20 minutes. It seems easy, but its really not. You can be comfortable tho. Its not about that. Its just being in a quite place without moving. Than you can focus on what enters your mind when youve mastered it.

a great book about that fang is Eric Fromm's The art of being.

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to add to what i said quicly. I believe that is necessary to deconstruct and analyse our reflective identity. Thats the identity that is created by living and absorbing experiences basically. By deconstructing, or demystifying these attitudes or thoughts that we have we can progress backwards through our existence all the way to our naive identity.

Its like a tree basically. Where you have to look at every branches to guide yourself back to the stem.

Hopes its clearer now.

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what you are talking about is self psychoanalysis. for the sake of discussion about self analysis, let me extrapolate on that.

The mind cant be silent. i would say i disagree with you on that cause the mind can be silent . "a silent mind is not a dead or static mind. a mind is dead or static when it is dulled with ignorance of oneself such as self-conceit, anger, greed and confusion which also clouds the mind to the world and to others. a truly silent mind is alert and sensitive to its sorroundings because it is devoid of judgment, clinginess and rejection.

therefore, "When there is silence there is no identity "  negates your position of the silent mind as having no identity...What you need to do with auto psychanalysis is listen to the noise. And after think why did i think this or that when i was not stimulated to think anything in particular. How did "this" thought specefically enter into my consciousness.i dont think listening to an outside noise is a help to our selfawareness, it should be the inner sound which guides us to the reality of our being; that which is not tinged with any negative and strong feelings or emotions...

Its more complicated than that, but that are the basics of that practice.i agree that it mostly is the basic but also the hardest part of self analysis.. You must practice being still, without moving in a position for 10-20 minutes. It seems easy, but its really not. .You can be comfortable tho. Its not about that. Its just being in a quite place without moving. .......being still (physically) is not that hard specially for those people who likes sitting still..but having an inner stillness needs a lot of practice....

Then you can focus on what enters your mind when youve mastered it....based on my own experience, all outside things are gone when i am still (physiclly and emotionally) the personal technic i learned to that is not to focus on the outside but to the stillness  of the inside......

a great book about that fang is Eric Fromm's The art of being.

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what ever is in your mind is experiences. That is the purpose of the brain. From when you were born it takes information in from your senses and correlates them to concepts or behaviours. That is called cognitive psychology, and is pretty much a fact.

NOW. Some people argue that despite this fact there is an inner "soul" that is unique to each being when they were born. IF by this you mean that when you are in your mothers placenta you already "experience" life and can build some kind of personallity, i agree. I also agree that genes play a major part in behaviors. This in fact was a study from Oxford or somewhere else if i remember.

But what you are talking about to me isnt clear.

What IS a silent mind to you?

A- Is it a mind free of thoughts.

or

B- A mind that is at peace.

If its the latter, i wouldnt call it "silent". Silent to me has one meaning, and to me that is TOTAL. It means emptyness, especially when you relate it to thinking.

What you call a silent mind, i call a critical and alert mind. Wich is one of the first steps to achieve before even THINKING of self analysis. But that is not the be all and end all of it.

Also you said "i dont think listening to an outside noise is a help to our selfawareness" Who said it was an outside noise, i SPECIFICALLY said you have to listen to what thoughts come into your brain when youre not focussing on anything. Like i said, the usual way is to lay/sit still in a silent place.

Sitting still is VERY HARD when you dont do anything. I am talking about sitting on a chair and NOT moving AT ALL. You dont move your arms, fingers, legs, NOTHING. That doesnt mean you cant be comfortable, but not moving for 20 minutes even when comfortable needs practice. Because you are left alone with yourself.

What do you mean by stillness of the inside?

How can you learn about thyself if you suffocate any unconscious reflex the mind has. What you do may be relaxing, but by your definition isnt self analysis since you dont confront yourself. You put your mind on mute.

All i described is the best way to turn up the volume of your thoughts whilst putting your senses on mute. That is the road i think is best for self analysis.

 

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