Gregory:

 

ok Teee & Entusiasta...

It's amazing how you acknowledge stats conveniently, so tell me:  Is the Fifa World Rankings reputable or not?  Or is it that they've finally gotten the rankings sorted out and put the only team not to hold a major trophy at the top of the rankings?  interesting....no need to answer those questions, you hardly do anyway, but I find it odd, because you were constantly saying that Brazil was overrated...

Riquelme is a genius though, you're right - i bet you say i finally came to my senses - Does it matter if i say a tree fell in the forest or not? It fell right....A rose is a rose no matter what i call it.  Am i wrong by calling Riquelme a very good player? or is it that I'm wrong for not saying Riquelme should be the greatest playmaker in football today?  He's not!  Bring stats, but he didn't play at the World Cup final, he lost to all of the overrated Brazilians, he hasn't played 50 games for Argentina, his triumphs have mostly come at Boca Juniors,  Villareal was a fluke - he felt bad Barcelona rejected him and no other BIG club jumped on his heels - he was treated like an ordinary player and that's "insulting".  It's like you talking about your impressive status as a University student while Drucurl embarrases you with the....so what been there done that, who hasn't......  He took away what you thought was your athourity to speak like you're God.   What's worse is that they threw you out of the Ac Milan forum - not welcomed here!  So you're forced to respond to even my no comments...

"ok Teee"

Fine well here's something to squabble about - Villareal was a fluke!  He failed at Barcelona, He's nothing to shout about with Argentina and Brazil is hosting the WC after South Africa, I'll be there at the Maracanã if the wife lets me for sure, will Argentina?  I doubt!  By then Riquelme would've retired and Messi would've shown him what geniuses do - win trophies at Barcelona!

OK mister 'Gregory', let's take a look at how many appearances Johan Cruijff had with the Netherlands.

Johan Cruijff; 1966-1978/ Netherlands - 48 Appearanses, and 33 Goals.

Riquelme; 1997-present/Argentina - 43 Appearanses, and 15 Goals.

Kaka; 2002-present*/Brazil - 52 Appearances, and 18 Goals.

Who's Juan Roman Riquelme??  Riquelme is the greatest player in Boca Juniors's history, a very impressive recognision - Who's Kaka?? Riquelme's the winner of 3 Copa Libertadores, 1 Intercontinental Cup, and 1 Intertoto Cup - Who's Kaka?? Riquelme's the most successful and influential player in Villarreal's history - Who's Kaka?? Oh yeah, now I remember. I think I saw Kaka play at the World Cup in Germany, what a dissapointment, a huge flop when Brazil needed him the most!!

I totally agree with you Gregory - ''it doesn't matter what you think..''

Gregory:

lol - knew you were waiting for something to do, you looked a little idle, so here it is...

Actually Riquelme playing for Boca Juniors and Argentina was a fluke...his parents weren't even from around those parts. 

The highest assists in the World Cup was a fluke - how many came against Serbia & Montenegro - who were his strikers?  If i had Crespo, Messi and Tevez in front of me, i'd have alot of assists too, not to mention it helps when you beat Serbia 6-0.  Nobody else did that, i guess they wanted to win the whole thing more than beat someone badly.

Boca Juniors is a huge club, just like Real Madrid and Ac Milan in terms of global/regional success.  Seedorf has 4 or 5 champions league medals playing for big clubs.  Rivaldo has a champions league medal too.  Why don't you send Riquelme to Gremio and let him win trophies?  He would never win another trophy at Villareal even if he stays and plays...so i'd have to say he was lucky to play for a big club & team like Boca Juniors and Argentina.  Zico didn't win anything at Udinese and he poured in the goals there to show his class, but he too fell to win major trophies like the World Cup.  So if I were to say that Zico was unlucky, then i'd have to say Riquelme was lucky to play for teams with such talented players in Argentina, Boca Juniors and Villareal.

I guess you're more agrieved at thread leader than anything else,  I guess you know more about everything than I do, fair enough, i don't profess to know everything about anything, I'm human, while you're disgruntled - run back quickly to protest something else i said in my other posts...Ac Milan are the best perhaps....Better players have competed in football than Riquelme and won nothing for their country or even club.  George Weah and Zico quickly comes to mind, you think somebody owes Riquelme something, it is he owes us everything, he was lucky to get the chance to play for ARgentina at all and consequently Boca Juniors.  Villareal was a fluke - tell him do it again!

Gregory you are officially the dumbest and most moronic poster I've ever dealt with.

Gregory; ''The highest assists in the World Cup was a fluke - how many came against Serbia & Montenegro - who were his strikers?  If i had Crespo, Messi and Tevez in front of me, i'd have alot of assists too, not to mention it helps when you beat Serbia 6-0.  Nobody else did that, i guess they wanted to win the whole thing more than beat someone badly.'' - Do you know anything about football, no truly because I'm concerned I've been discussing with a child. Did you/Gregory somehow missed that Riquelme was the player of that match (Argentina-Serbia Montenegro)?? Gregory I think you did not meven watched this game, because if you had actually seen it - you would know that Riquelme controlled everything Argentina did.

Gregory; ''Actually Riquelme playing for Boca Juniors and Argentina was a fluke...his parents weren't even from around those parts.'' - So I guess that Zinedine Zidane is also a fluke, given that he's not 'really' French. And I guess it's the same with David Trezeguet (Argentine), Mauro Camoranesi (Argentine), etc.. Gregory you are shameless.

fang:

 

 

 

 

Juventus striker Alessandro Del Piero looks set to come back into the starting line-up for Sunday's big match with leaders Inter Milan having come off the bench in Wednesday's 3-0 win over Empoli.

Del Piero may link up with David Trezeguet, who bagged a hat-trick against Empoli, while Claudio Ranieri must decide whether to include Vincenzo Iaquinta in a three-pronged attack.

The coach may instead continue with in-form Raffaele Palladino on the right wing with fit-again Mauro Camoranesi only likely to make the bench.

Third-placed Juventus also have Pavel Nedved, Giorgio Chiellini, Nicola Legrottaglie and Antonio Nocerino back from suspension and all four could start.

 

Who would profoundly agree that riquelme will be a huge addition to juve?....

I would.

Juventus is the European equivalent to Boca Juniors without Riquelme. They play a ver very similar style of football; quality players, potential, but somehow tthey play like a car with the brakes on.. They have some limitations on their football; too much air balls, not good football, etc.. However, the potential is there, they show glimpses of good football - but Pavel Nedved is ageing, and Del Piero is ageing.

Juventus is just like Boca Juniors without Riquelme; they have the players, they show potential, they show heart and passion, but they are lacking something, something that is very clear on the pitch. They lack ball posetion, and organisation among other things.. This is were Riquelme becomes extremely determinant - Claudio Ranieri signs Riquelme and he'll have a great team. Juventus needs a different player like Riquelme - a player who makes the rest of the team (team-mates) play good football - that's what Juventus is missing.

Juventus (and Valencia) need a player like Riquelme, Recoba, Guti, Deco, Xavi, or Fabregas. They do not need Diego (Werder Bremen), Van Der Vaart (Hamburger), Ballack, or Lampard. Juventus need a player who shows himself on the pitch, who asks for the ball, who consistently distributes play - those players are very few, some of them include; Roman Riquelme (who's the best at controling the pace of a game), Cesc Fabregas (whos the most complete player around), Xavi (the player who make Barcelona tick), Guti (the very inconsistent, but world class playmaker), and Deco (the all around great player of Barcelona).

But the situation is that neither Deco, or Fabregas, or Xavi, or Recoba, or Guti, or Ballack, or Lapard, or Diego (who already made very clear he wants to join Real Madrid), are available for january. The only world class playmaker available for january is Juan Roman Riquelme. And this gives me hope that there's at least a very small posibility for Riquelme joinong Juventyus in january.

Bottom line; Juventus and Claudio Ranieri in particular are very lucky, because the situation is favouring them. The only thing Ranieri and Juventus can do in january is sign Riquelme, and that would prove perfect for Juventus as Juventus do not need neither Lampard, or Ballack, or Diego.. they need a player like Riquelme or Fabregas, a player who is reliable, and that consistently administrates the game. Juventus is extremely lucky because they can sign what they need for only 3 million euros, and not only is Riquelme available for 3 million euros, but Riquelme's style of play would fit in perfectly with Juventus and most importantly with Italian Serie A football. Juventus should also take advantage of some world class defenders that are available. Bottom line - If Claudio Ranieri plays by what the situation is providing him, Juventus will be back in full strenght sooner than expected. If Ranieri signs Juan Roman Riquelme and Ivanovic in january, Juventus will give Inter a run for their money.

Riquelme haves the experience and ability to make the best of David Trezeguet (just like he did with Martin Palermo in Boca Juniors, and with Diego Forlan in Villarreal), and youngsters Palladino and Giovinco. I expect nothing less from Claudio Ranieri, and I hope he sees it the same way I do - Riquelme's available for 3 million euros, he's relatively young for his style of play (29 years old, will keep performing at a high level well into his 35s.. His pace as never been his srtong-point, and that will remain the same for the next 5 years.. Examples? Zinedine Zidane, Luis Figo, Carlos Valderrama, Roberto Baggio, Paolo Maldini, etc, etc..), and Juventus are lacking a player like him. Ranieri should definitely secure his signing for the second half of the season, Riquelme's signing could prove a masterful signing, or be a dissapointment. Either way, Riquelme is the only world class attacking midfielder availble for january, and Juventus needs a world class attacking midfielder. And the best Ranieri can do is signing Juan Roman Riquelme as a now-present time-signing, if it doesn't works out as one might hoped, there's always next season - when other players might be available.

But Claudio Ranieri shouldn't compromise Juventus future with posible signings for the next season, he should think about the present-now-3 million euros-Riquelme, instead of the future-next season-gamble-signing of expensive Frank Lampard or Michael Ballack (players Juventus does not needs in hte first place).. Ranieri should sign Riquelme by januery, and if it doesn't works out there's always the summer transfer window.. But one thing is certain; ' Juventus key players are aging players, and their age will show in the second half of the season..' Juventus needs a world class player signing in january, and I hope A.Secco (Juventus sporting director) stops wasting his time with Frank Lampard, Miacheal Ballack, or Diego. Secco should focus on available players, players like Riquelme, Ivanovic, etc.. Again; if Juventus signs what the situation is providing them (Riquelme, and maybe Ivanovic, or Senderos), Juventus will give Inter a run for their money, and they will definitely be back sooner than expected.

Either way, I wish the best of luck to Pavel Nedved and the promising youngsters that will wear the bianconeri colors in the sooner than expected future.

And I wouldn't...

After watching the Juventus vs Inter Milan game,  I'm not convinced Juventus even needs to add a player like Riquelme, but maybe who knows.  They've drawn with Inter, Fiorentina and Roma so far and only played inter at home.  Nedved is pretty good, all that was missing was the steal we've grown accustomed to when Juventus play teams in their defence.  The speed was a little lacking from key players, but i think they did well.  I'm not sure if Ranieri will last long though...he's good and will fill a gap, but he's not Juventus calibre, he's not championship material, but these players will hide his deficiencies.

I also kinda disagree and think that Ballack would work for them.  Lampard however is another story, Nedved does his job, I suppose if Juventus gets him, it would be an attempt to go younger for a similar or slightly different player to offer something missing, but nedved defends, so i don't see the need for Lampard.  I think you're a little obsessed with Riquelme's effect on Boca Juniors, but that's life i guess...Juventus are in good shape, so is Boca Juniors - 4th place and 1st place seems like decent positions for most big clubs, except Barcelona who needs to be champion not just 1st.  Ranieri is fortunate not for what you think, but for the fact that they don't have distractions of Europe to contend with, so many of their players are fresh. 

Juventus' solution lay in finding a solution to these issues:  Ranieri isn't good enough - try Mourinho{lol-that would be the second club that fires Ranieri for Mourinho};  Giovinco should be Juve's priority next season with another striker of the missing quality of Mutu {guess they didn't have any choice but to release Mutu} and one or two defenders plus a midfielder like Ballack, but i guess Riquelme would work, but i think he'd be a luxury for Juventus and Ac Milan, not to mention Inter Milan. 

Riquelme's solution should lie in the following clubs Bayern Munich, Man City, Napoli, Werder Bremen{if Diego leaves}, Fiorentina and this is given that he will not be staying in Spain, otherwise Valencia and Zaragoza would work perfectly.

We definitely don't need Riquelme.We need someone younger like Diego and Van der Vaart.They don't cost so much money and they are very capable and imagnitive creative midfielders.It's obvious that we are in desperete need of players like them.I hope that Ranieri will let Tiago play, because he is a great player.I don't know why he is dismissed, but he will help us very much.Now, when Camoransi is back, i hope that will play better.I'm pleased with our posistion in the standings but we don't play good, particularly in the midfield.The players are like 11 warriors, but that's not enough.It was very difficult against Inter and they controled the game most of the time.There is a lack of creative midfielders, we play with two defansive players-Nocerino and Zanetti and i'm of the opinon that the new Gattuso should be replaced by Tiago, because he is a very technical player and he is capable of helping the forwards.

Diego and VanderVart can cost very much these days?

Diego is wanted by high class clubs such as real..

and van der vaart is out of anybody's reach .....!!He still has his contract going and his team doesnt seem to let go off him..

Juve have played well...and they have a big chance of winnig the Scudetto

blajev:

 

We definitely don't need Riquelme.We need someone younger like Diego and Van der Vaart.They don't cost so much money and they are very capable and imagnitive creative midfielders.It's obvious that we are in desperete need of players like them.I hope that Ranieri will let Tiago play, because he is a great player.I don't know why he is dismissed, but he will help us very much.Now, when Camoransi is back, i hope that will play better.I'm pleased with our posistion in the standings but we don't play good, particularly in the midfield.The players are like 11 warriors, but that's not enough.It was very difficult against Inter and they controled the game most of the time.There is a lack of creative midfielders, we play with two defansive players-Nocerino and Zanetti and i'm of the opinon that the new Gattuso should be replaced by Tiago, because he is a very technical player and he is capable of helping the forwards.

Oh you're a Diego fan. Tell me what is so impressive about a slow-small player-who can't score-who's inconsistent-and who can't control the pace of a match?? Tell what's the hype about Diego?? This is a player who as accomplished absolutely nothing!! and he's 22 years old. 'blajev' did you know that Riquelme had already won 2 Copa Libertadores, 1 Intercontinental Cup, and 3 Argentine Championships at the early age of 22. What as Diego won so far?? Apart from being a complete flop in the Copa America (2007).. Diego as absolutely no potential - slow, does not position himself well on the pith (wich causes his dissapearing acts in every single game), is not a goal scorer, is small, and is as inconsistent as a player can get. Diego will be the next 'huge flop' in Real Madrid, and Real Madrid haves plenty of flops in his history book  - Diego will be the newest flop in Real Madrid's history.

Rafael Van der Vaart is much better than Diego, he's world class. But unlike Riquelme, Van der Vaart does not have the ability to organise a team, and of dictating the play of his team. Van der Vaart is noty a proper playmaker, he doesn't plays for his team (team-mates), he plays more for himself than anything, but he's good. I think Van der Vaart would ultimately help Juventus, but Juan Roman Riquelme would be a much better and cheaper signing for Juventus. Why?? Because Riquelme does haves the ability of organising a team, he can dictate the play of a team like no other - and that is what Juventus needs.

Either way, Rafael Van der Vaart will be the next Pablo Aimar - a higly rated player, but a player who cannot control the pace of a game, a player who's about individual genialities more than anything, a player who's not consistent, and a very highly injury-prone player (he's been seriously injured more than once, and he suffers from injuries almost evry single season). Van der Vaart will be the same stroy as Pablo Aimar in Valencia - an impressive/highly rated player, but an injury prone/inconsistent player, Van der Vaart will be a dissapointment in either Valencia or Juventus. Why?? Because first of all he's overrated, secondly he's the most injury prone player around, and thridly his inconsistency. His injuries + his inconsistency will limit Rafael Van der Vaart's time on the pitch, and as a consequence it will limit Rafael Van der Vaart's succes (just like with Ajax).

In my opinion me/entusiasta and 'The Soldier' are the closer ones to reality here. Because as The Soldier and I already stated - "Diego is going to Real Madrid, and he is unabailable for january" "Van der Vaart is unabailable, he haves a contract with Hamburger, and he wants to go to Valencia come next season"

So this leaves us with Juan Roman Riquelme. The Soldier said that Juventus is doing fine as it is, and I agree with him. But he/the soldier is missing a very important and revelant fact here - AC Milan are going to spend big money on January (Berlusconi already made that very clear. AC Milan will spend millions and millions of euros in january), Inter is also going to spend big on january. And this puts pressure on Juventus as not only does AC Milan and Inter have more money to spend, but also Juventus 'key players' are ageing, and it's showing on the pitch. Juventus's key players's age will show on the second half of the season, and it is of paramount importance that Juventus reinforce themselves on January.

Neither Michael Ballack, or Frank Lampard, or Diego, or Van der Vaart, or Deco, or Xavi, or Fabregas is abailable for january. The only world class attacking midfielder abailable is Juan Roman Riquelme, and Juventus should take an iniciative in sigining him becasue Inter might have a change of heart as Luis Figo will be out for 2 months. Trust me, it wouldn't be good for Juventus if Riquelme joins Inter.

And lastly, Riquelme is a very entertaining player to watch. Maybe he doesn't makes extravagant runs, but he creates beautiful and effective football (and very entertaining football as well). This is shared by most people in the world, as Argentina was the team wich played the most beautiful and entertaining football in both the World Cup in Germany (2006) and the Copa America (2007). This is not entusiasta's opinion, this is an opinion shared by most people in the world - Argentina is the most beautiful and entertaining team to watch, Argentina is the # 1 ranked team in the world. And who creates that wonderful football?? Juan Roman Riquelme, just like he's always done it with Boca Juniors and Villarreal.

Gregory:

 

And I wouldn't...

After watching the Juventus vs Inter Milan game,  I'm not convinced Juventus even needs to add a player like Riquelme, but maybe who knows.  They've drawn with Inter, Fiorentina and Roma so far and only played inter at home.  Nedved is pretty good, all that was missing was the steal we've grown accustomed to when Juventus play teams in their defence.  The speed was a little lacking from key players, but i think they did well.  I'm not sure if Ranieri will last long though...he's good and will fill a gap, but he's not Juventus calibre, he's not championship material, but these players will hide his deficiencies.

I also kinda disagree and think that Ballack would work for them.  Lampard however is another story, Nedved does his job, I suppose if Juventus gets him, it would be an attempt to go younger for a similar or slightly different player to offer something missing, but nedved defends, so i don't see the need for Lampard.  I think you're a little obsessed with Riquelme's effect on Boca Juniors, but that's life i guess...Juventus are in good shape, so is Boca Juniors - 4th place and 1st place seems like decent positions for most big clubs, except Barcelona who needs to be champion not just 1st.  Ranieri is fortunate not for what you think, but for the fact that they don't have distractions of Europe to contend with, so many of their players are fresh. 

Juventus' solution lay in finding a solution to these issues:  Ranieri isn't good enough - try Mourinho{lol-that would be the second club that fires Ranieri for Mourinho};  Giovinco should be Juve's priority next season with another striker of the missing quality of Mutu {guess they didn't have any choice but to release Mutu} and one or two defenders plus a midfielder like Ballack, but i guess Riquelme would work, but i think he'd be a luxury for Juventus and Ac Milan, not to mention Inter Milan. 

Riquelme's solution should lie in the following clubs Bayern Munich, Man City, Napoli, Werder Bremen{if Diego leaves}, Fiorentina and this is given that he will not be staying in Spain, otherwise Valencia and Zaragoza would work perfectly.

Gregory of all the posters here, you're the one who pisses me off the most. But this last reply of yours was quite good.

First of all, I have to admit that I'm surprised by your opinion about Riquelme playing for Valencia, I completely agree with you. I'm not sure if you knew this, but Valencia doesn't lacks 'young talent' - David Villa, Joaquin Sanchez, David Silva, Miguel Fernandez, Sunny, and many others.. Valencia haves plenty of 21 to 25 promising year olds, and Rafael Van der Vaart would be more of the same. In fact I think Rafael Van der Vaart would be the perfect replacement for Pablo Aimar (wich by the way was a complete dissapointment for Valencia). Van der Vaart would be the same as Pablo Aimar - impressive 24 year old player who's injury prone, and who's really not as good as the hype suggest (world class though), and who ultimately was very indiferrent in Valencia's history.

On the other hand, Juan Roman Riquelme in Valencia would work perfectly becasue - Riquelme's relatively young for his style of play (still haves 5 good years in him, maybe even more), Riquelme haves the experience Valencia is currently lacking (he's been there, done that, and has won plenty of prestigious trophies), and at the end of the day Valencia really needs a playmaker. So who better than the best playmaker around, not only is Riquelme unquestionably one of the top 5 best playmakers in the world, but he's already well adapted to Spanish La Liga Football wich is ideal for Valencia as Riquelme would start performing right away. Not only is Riquelme well adapted to Spanish Football, but he also trains in Valencia (Villarreal is in Valencia's region), so Ronald Koeman could literally drive his car to 'El Madrigal' and personaly talk with Riquelme about a posible signing.

If it was up to me, if I was in charge of Valencia - the first thing I would do is getting rid of Helguera. Helguera performed poorly in his last 2 years with Real Madrid, and this year with Valencia as been his worst so far. Helguera is past his prime, and Valencia needs someone worthy of replacing Roberto Ayala. I know replacing Ayala is asking too much, but I'm also sure there are a lot of defenders out there that can do a much better job than him - maybe Ivanovic, or Senderos (Arsenal).. But if it was me I would try to negotiate a swap between Helguera and Riquelme. It could work out, I mean Villarreal's doesn't wants Riquelme and are short on defenders. On the other hand, Valencia needs a playmaker (there's no doubt about it), and Valencia's defence needs serious changes, the first one getting rid of Helguera. So I think it could work out for both parties (Valencia and Villarreal), a swap between Helguera and Riquelme. And after that, signing a good center back.

Ok, I stated or better said hinted that Juventus doesn't needs a player like Michael Ballack and I mantain my opinion. But I have to agree that Ballack could work for them as Ballack is a reasonably good playmaker - doesn't creates much chances for his team-mates, but he's one of the few good playmakers around. However I think Riquelme would be much better for Juventus, he could create a lot of goals for Trezeguet (one of the best poachers in the world, consistent too), in fact I'm convinced that Riquelme and Trezeguet could develop a great partnership.

Either way, Michael Ballack is unabailable. And Juventus needs world class signings in january. Why?? Because AC Milan and Inter are going to spend big money on january, wich as a consequence pressures Juventus into signing new players. I hope you/Gregory agree with me when I say that Juventus ' key player's age ' will show on the second half of the season, I'm convinced Juventus needs to add a player like Riquelme to their squad as not only would this provide Juventus with more depth, but it would also prove determinant.

I don't know what AC Milan's problem is, because AC Milan haves a good team, but it looks like it is the player's age. I mean, players ranging from 34 to 40 are old. Either way, Berlusconi is looking to fix that prblem via 'big january signings'. The other club looking for a big january signing is Inter, it's been rumoured that Inter are preparing a bid of 20 million euros + Adriano for Sergio Aguero. And I'm sure Atletico Madrid will refuse that offer. Thing is that Moratti is a huge fan of Barcelona's Leo Messi, and it is no secret that Sergio Aguero is very similar to Messi, so if Atletico Madrid refuse Inter's first offer I'm sure Inter will come with a second-too-good-to-refuse offer, like for example 35 million euros + Adriano for Sergio Aguero. Either way, AC Milan and Inter are going to make big signings in january - lucky for Juventus, Riquelme doesn't figures neither in AC Milan's or Inter's plans. But the situation remains that AC Milan and Inter have more depth than Juventus, and this depth will make a difference in the second half of the season / when rotations will be needed.

Juventus needs world class signings by january, be it world class cheap players like Riquelme or world class ridiculously expensive players like Fabregas. This comes from a Juventus fan as I've been a huge Pavel Nedved fan for a long time - wich of course makes me follow Juventus.

And lastly, this are some of the players I would sign if I was in Claudio Ranieri's shoes - Roman Riquelme as attacking midfielder (playmaker), Ivanovic as centre back, and Senderos (Arsenal) as defensive midfielder (I think Senderos haves everything to be a great defensive midfielder, the pace, the physique, the work rate, the defensive qualities, everything.. I think Senderos could develop into a world class defensive midfielder, either way he's a quality defender and he's young).

What do you/Gregory think?? Who would you sign?? And please say someone who's abailable, because neither Michael Ballack, or Frank Lampard, or Van der Vaart, or Diego are available. 

We mustn't buy nor Ballack nor Lampard.We need a creative and YOUNG midfielder.I want Diego and Van der Vaart, because they are cheap and we will be able to afford them.In terms of Diego, i really think that he is very good and technical.There is no need to prove you that- he was voted for best player for tha last season in Germany. A very imagnitive player, who will match perfectly for Juve.We can buy Rosicky, but he is very expensive. I understood that we want to buy Appiah and i'm very happy about that. I like Nocerino, but he is too violent and he must control himself. Appiah plays very good in Fenerbahce and he is capable of heling tha attack.I hope that Juve midfield will be:Tiago, Camoranesi, Appiah and Rosicky.Almrion was a mistake and we have to sell him.Maybe he is a capable player, but not worthy enough to play for such a club.

Well Diego is probably better, van der vaart is injury prone i think - last i checked at least.  Of course, it won't hurt to get both, but I don't see a great need for Riquelme.  However, the interesting thing about Riquelme being so cheap is that they can get both Riquelme and Diego, which should invariably mean Riquelme taking a bit of bench time, since Diego will speed up your game. 

Rosicky is a very good player, but i'm sorry, he's a waste of time.  He's very injury prone and cannot be depended on.  IF he wasn't so prone to injury, i'd say sure, take him off of Arsenal, but the fee would not be small.

Appiah is questionable, wasn't he in Italy before?  I'm not sure, i remembered him playing one or two games for Juventus i think he failed to come to terms with whatever it was, but he didn't produce alot.

From what you've said, i'd take Diego, Riquelme and try to keep Tiago.  Nocerino will take time...But i don't think Juventus should buy those older players, take this period to slowly rebuild to the team they had before the "scandal" and young players will do that, because they have higher resale values in case they flop and you can build a team for longer rather than have players soon retiring on their way down.

Gregory:

 

 Well Diego is probably better, van der vaart is injury prone i think - last i checked at least.  Of course, it won't hurt to get both, but I don't see a great need for Riquelme.  However, the interesting thing about Riquelme being so cheap is that they can get both Riquelme and Diego, which should invariably mean Riquelme taking a bit of bench time, since Diego will speed up your game. 

Rosicky is a very good player, but i'm sorry, he's a waste of time.  He's very injury prone and cannot be depended on.  IF he wasn't so prone to injury, i'd say sure, take him off of Arsenal, but the fee would not be small.

Appiah is questionable, wasn't he in Italy before?  I'm not sure, i remembered him playing one or two games for Juventus i think he failed to come to terms with whatever it was, but he didn't produce alot.

From what you've said, i'd take Diego, Riquelme and try to keep Tiago.  Nocerino will take time...But i don't think Juventus should buy those older players, take this period to slowly rebuild to the team they had before the "scandal" and young players will do that, because they have higher resale values in case they flop and you can build a team for longer rather than have players soon retiring on their way down.

Gregory I really thought that by now you would understand Riquelme's game - First of all Riquelme is faster than Diego (Diego is similar to Carlos Valderrama in that he's agile, but he is slow.). Second of all, Riquelme's game is not about running with the ball all the time, but Riquelme's teams play fast football. Why?? Because Riquelme is probably the best player at keeping the ball moving, and as everyone who plays and haves knowledge about football knows; 'no one is faster than the ball' (ask Pele and Johan Cruijff if you need to).

Diego does not speed up your game, in fact Diego is like a brake; he slow downs the play becasue of his lack of pace, and what makes it worst is that Diego does takes a while in passing the ball - wich result in poor football, Werder Bremen does not plays good collective football, and Diego is slow at moving the ball (this was the reason Dunga benched Diego for most of the Copa America, after 2 or 3 poor performances Dunga growed tyred of more of the same and benched Diego. Brazil started playing better football without Diego). Diego is good do not get me wrong, but Diego is not World Class. Rafael Van der Vaart is better (but he is always injured) than Diiego, and Juan Roman Riquelme is much better than Diego. Van der Vaart and Riquelme are world class, Diego is not world class.

Werder Bremen are already out of the Champions Legaue, and their group was reasonably easy. When Riquelme played for Villarreal in the Champions League, Villarreal reached the Semi-Finals, and Villarreal played in a much harder group (Manchester United, Benfica 'with Simao Sabrosa', Rangers, and another team). Statistics might not be accurate about a player, but trophies and achievements are - Only Riquelme haves the ability of making a small team play good football and at the same time reachin the Champions League Semi-Finals.

On the other hand, Diego failed to reach the Semi-Finals with Werder Bremen last season, even though Werder Bremen had a great team. And this season Werder Bremen are not even going to get through the group play. I mean, it's fine if you people for some personal reasons dislike Riquelme - but do not ignore and completely overlooke Riquelme's trophies and achievements. I mean, Riquelme did reached a Champions League Semi-Final recently (2006), and Riquelme did won a Copa Libertadores very recently (2007), and Riquelme did reached a Copa America Final very recently (2007) - throphies and achievements speak for themselves, this are not statistics, this are achievements, and achievements are very revelant.

Riquleme makes his team's play fast football, he is very effective at finishing team's off in the counter-attack wich would go excellent with Giovinco and Trezeguet. Riquelme does not makes the extravagant runs, but he consistently creates and makes extravagant runs posible (as it was clear in Boca Juniors). Diego why not?? He is obviously not close to Riquelme, both of them played in the same Copa America (2007),and Riquelme completely outclassed Diego. It's nothing personal against Diego, as I like Diego when he's having one of his good games, but Riquelme is just more talented and more consistent, hey that's reality - watch them both on the pitch and you will notice a huge difference in class (Riquelme covers a lot more pitch than Diego with his passing and movement / technique). Nevertheless, Riquelme and Diego would make a smart buy for Juventus, the issue here is that Diego is not keen on Juventus, Diego is very keen on Real Madrid - and Real Madrid wants him, Schuster wants him, so it is a certainty that if Diego is leaving Werder Bremen, he is going to Real Madrid.

And Gregory, Juventus is not lacking young talent, they have a couple of promising young stars on loan (Giovinco among them), as well as many youngsters on the team already. Juventus is lacking a world class player with experience-but who's not actually aging - like Riquelme. The only world class players with experience that aren't aging are Mauro Camoranesi and David Trezeguet, they should add. Juan Roman Riquelme to that group of players.

ok Riquelme...

I didn't say anything about Juventus lacking young talent, i just think it is an opportunity to build for the future as i said.  Big teams like Juventus don't lack experience, it's all around them always:  Del Piero, Buffon, Nedved...the list goes on including those around the club who were winners. 

I had to check again, because I can't remember someone telling me that Werder Bremen were out of the Champions League with two games to go.  I mean they're probably in a better situation than Liverpool since their teams are "easy", i don't know since when teams like Lazio, Madrid & Olympiacos became easy, but i guess you know teams who waltz all over them.  Diego will go where the money is, just like Drogba & Chelsea, so if Juventus offer something better, Italy for him.

It doesn't matter though, in a couple weeks, we'll know the destination of several players.  I predict Diego stays til the end of the season at Werder Bremen, otherwise, he'll go to Juventus, since he'll be cup-tied for Madrid.  Riquelme obviously has his team more or less picked out, he'll make the announcement in about a week or so, maybe less if it leaks.

Your emphasis on World Class is overrated since as just noted, Rooney isn't World Class, so it doesn't matter.  You can win without world class, there is always also very good.

Gregory:

Riquelme obviously has his team more or less picked out, he'll make the announcement in about a week or so, maybe less if it leaks....

Your emphasis on World Class is overrated since as just noted, Rooney isn't World Class, so it doesn't matter.  You can win without world class, there is always also very good.

really, who is it!!!! who, who!!!!

since when is rooney not world class...

anywayz, back to juve matters. i believe tiago is heading for man city or the hammers. he is just waiting for juve to let him go.

Apart from selling Tiago, who are Juventus targets?? I mean, I know Secco (Juventus sporting director) has been waisting his time with unabailable players such as Carvalho, Michael Ballack, Frank Lampard, Diego, and now Van der Vaart. But is Juventus interested in someone who's actually abailable?? 

And as for Wayne Rooney, I think he's overrated but he's definitely world class. And he's definitely proving me wrong this season, Rooney's form as far as this season goes has been outstanding. 

I think Juventus will most definitely improve with Juan Roman Riquelme, Ivanovic, and maybe Senderos (Arsenal). And as for experience, Gregory is ignoring that  Pavel Nedved and Alessandro Del Piero are both aging, yes they have experience but they are aging. Roman Riquelme is experienced, but he's still is a young veteran, he's far from aging - like at least 4 good seasons before declieving. MauroCamoranesiisinjured

Apart from selling Tiago, who are Juventus targets?? I mean, I know Secco (Juventus sporting director) has been waisting his time with unabailable players such as Carvalho, Michael Ballack, Frank Lampard, Diego, and now Van der Vaart. But is Juventus interested in someone who's actually abailable?? 

And as for Wayne Rooney, I think he's overrated but he's definitely world class. And he's definitely proving me wrong this season, Rooney's form as far as this season goes has been outstanding. 

I think Juventus will most definitely improve with Juan Roman Riquelme, Ivanovic, and maybe Senderos (Arsenal). And as for experience, Gregory is ignoring that  Pavel Nedved and Alessandro Del Piero are both aging, yes they have experience but they are aging. Roman Riquelme is experienced, but he's still is a young veteran, he's far from aging - like at least 4 good seasons before declieving. MauroCamoranesi is injured