Most overrated players. Last post 06-23-2008, 1:32 by torresno.9. 181 replies.
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  •  08-14-2007, 6:23 42249
    Most overrated players.

    It's obvious, there are a lot of overrated players being priced today, and I would like to know who are the most overrated players in the public's opinion.

    For me it goes like: Adriano(Inter), Rooney, Raúl, Baptista, R.Carlos, F.Lampard, Robinho, T.Walcott, F.Torres, A.Pato, Emerson, Juninho Pern ...

    Underrated players: Suazo(Inter), Guti, Kuyt, Recoba, Van Persie, D'Alessandro, J.Mascherano, Marcos(Villarreal), O.Martins, P.Crouch, M.Viduka, G.Mendieta, J.Sorín, M.Senna ...  

    World class players: Kaka, R.Pires, Ronaldinho, Xavi, D.Beckham, Joaquín, Ayala, Riquelme, F.Totti, Del Piero, F.Morientes, C.Puyol, L.Messi, C.Ronaldo, L.Figo, S.Eto'o, P.Maldini, A.Nesta, T.Henry, F.Ribéry, Makelele, P.Vieira, T.Rosicky, P.Nedved, M.Klose, H.Crespo, A.Shevchenko, Ronaldo, A.Pirlo, C.Seedorf, G.Gattuso, S.Gerrard, H.Larsson ...  


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  •  08-14-2007, 8:20 42250 in reply to 42249
    Re: Most overrated players.
    entusiasta:

    It's obvious, there are a lot of overrated players being priced today, and I would like to know who are the most overrated players in the public's opinion.

    For me it goes like: Adriano(Inter), Rooney, Raúl, Baptista, F.Cannavaro, R.Carlos, F.Lampard, Robinho, C.Fabregas, T.Walcott, F.Torres, A.Pato, Emerson, Juninho Pern ...

    Underrated players: Suazo(Inter), Guti, Kuyt, Recoba, Van Persie, D'Alessandro, J.Mascherano, Marcos(Villarreal), O.Martins, P.Crouch, M.Viduka, G.Mendieta, J.Sorín, M.Senna ...  

    World class players: Kaka, R.Pires, Ronaldinho, Xavi, D.Beckham, Joaquín, Ayala, Riquelme, F.Totti, Del Piero, F.Morientes, C.Puyol, L.Messi, C.Ronaldo, L.Figo, S.Eto'o, P.Maldini, A.Nesta, T.Henry, F.Ribéry, Makelele, P.Vieira, T.Rosicky, P.Nedved, M.Klose, H.Crespo, A.Shevchenko, Ronaldo, A.Pirlo, C.Seedorf, G.Gattuso, S.Gerrard ...  

    hey entuasiasta i like your underrated and world class players list. nothing wrong with them. but your overrated players list have players in their that r definitly not overrated. Players like raul and r. carlos are not overrated. they r just past thier best, these players were the best players in football, not overrated. How you could have fabregas as overrated is ridiculous this guy is a sensational footballer. Players like pato and walcott are young, you have to give then a chance b4 you call them overrated.

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  •  08-14-2007, 9:05 42257 in reply to 42249
    Re: Most overrated players.
    entusiasta:

    It's obvious, there are a lot of overrated players being priced today, and I would like to know who are the most overrated players in the public's opinion.

    For me it goes like: Adriano(Inter), Rooney, Raúl, Baptista, F.Cannavaro, R.Carlos, F.Lampard, Robinho, C.Fabregas, T.Walcott, F.Torres, A.Pato, Emerson, Juninho Pern ...

    Underrated players: Suazo(Inter), Guti, Kuyt, Recoba, Van Persie, D'Alessandro, J.Mascherano, Marcos(Villarreal), O.Martins, P.Crouch, M.Viduka, G.Mendieta, J.Sorín, M.Senna ...  

    World class players: Kaka, R.Pires, Ronaldinho, Xavi, D.Beckham, Joaquín, Ayala, Riquelme, F.Totti, Del Piero, F.Morientes, C.Puyol, L.Messi, C.Ronaldo, L.Figo, S.Eto'o, P.Maldini, A.Nesta, T.Henry, F.Ribéry, Makelele, P.Vieira, T.Rosicky, P.Nedved, M.Klose, H.Crespo, A.Shevchenko, Ronaldo, A.Pirlo, C.Seedorf, G.Gattuso, S.Gerrard ...  

    i bielive you are right about the 2nd and the third set

    maybe i would have done some changes to the third but still it is good

    about the first set i dont thnik it is very right the overated players are the following according to me babtista,canavaro,lampard...

    the rest are either 2 young to be rated as overated or underated

    or they are given the rate they have to be given

    adding quarisma to the underated section would make it more specific because i bielive that quaresma has the same qualities ase christiano ronaldo.......with a small difference




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  •  08-15-2007, 4:43 42293 in reply to 42250
    Re: Most overrated players.

    I rated Fabregas carelessly, still he didn't convinced me this last season, but I'm going to take him out of the overrated list because I haven' t seen him play much.. However Raúl and R.Carlos are past their best that's true but that doesn't excuse why people still rate them so highly, that's why I say they're overrated, because right now Raúl is an average player and R.Carlos is a liability in the defence, apart from that they're allright. And you're right Pato and Walcott are too young to be rated but neither of them have shown true potential, at least not as the hype suggests.


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  •  08-15-2007, 4:59 42294 in reply to 42257
    Re: Most overrated players.

    Baptista and Lampard are definitely overrated, I mean as Lampard ever performed well with the national team? Cannavaro on the other hand is not overrated but he's not as good as people think either, people rated him very highly at the World Cup but is it so difficult to defend surrounded by players like; Nesta, G.Gatusso, De Rossi, Grosso, Zambrotta... they are all excellent defenders and they made Cannavaro's work a lot easier. Prove of it are his performances for Real Madrid, he rarely performed well in his new team and he certainly wasn't a determinant factor in Real's league win.

    I haven't seen enough of Quaresma to rate him, but he showed great skills at the Champions League.


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  •  08-15-2007, 13:01 42333 in reply to 42294
    Re: Most overrated players.

    Essien is under rated, so is Riquelme.

    Rooney, lampard, ferdinand and Beckham (and most english players) are over rated. Gerrard isnt, and neither is Hargreaves.

    Quarisma needs to get out of Porto to be rated according to me.

    Del piero is the same as Raul- great back then, average now. Ronaldo still has 1 more season to kill (he'll smash it this year with milan).

    Cannavaro didnt deserve best player in the world, but hey, i seen Lampard taking 2nd spot a couple of years ago when he didnt deserve it either.

    Viera is so valuable that arsenal are still finding it hard to manage without him. Mascherano is the best holding midfielder in the world. Sissoko is also underrated.

    Robinho is good, he's the sort of player who needs to be free to do damage. fielding him as a striker or a winger means he is restricted, needs to be more free to show what he can really do. Nesta is world class. Reyes is world class. Fabregas is world class but, out of that generation, L. Messi is the one who stands out for me= Sheer class. Eto is europe's best striker (still) and Buffon over Czech anytime.

     

    Kaka is the best player in the world, whether he can do what zidane did at 34 remains to be seen. I doubt any of them could come close to Zizu

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  •  08-15-2007, 19:53 42349 in reply to 42333
    Re: Most overrated players.

    Rooney is only 21, the hype the surrounds him is overwelming, however he is the best striker England has turned out since Owen and Shearer. He has over 50 EPL goals and if I'm not mistaken, is the youngest player to reach fifty goals and lets not forget he scored 4 goals at Euro 2004 as a teenager, and if he wasn't injured in that game vs Portugal I reckon England would have won.

    Underrated:

    Klose: IMO top 5 finishers in the world, if not the best.

    Ayala: In England he's underrated, and only people who watch his games know how good he actually is.

    Cambiasso: Does the little things so well.

    Xavi: Again, does the litte things well.

    Darren Fletcher: People critic SAF, but he's blossomed into a good depth player for one of the best clubs in the world. At 23, he could become an elite player

    Overrated:

    Aimar: Bench player

    Luis Garcia: Never fancied the guy.

     

     

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  •  08-16-2007, 8:05 42369 in reply to 42333
    Re: Most overrated players.

    It didn't crossed my mind if Riquelme whas underrated, but now that you mention it, he actually is underrated. He as won everithing in South America, from player of the year to The Copa Libertadores, but still nobody as signed him this summer. I mean look at the players that have played in South America; Pele, Maradona, Di Stéfano, Valderrama, Romário, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo... to say the least Riquelme has won more things(in south america that is) than Ronaldinho, Romário and Valderrama, that's got to mean something...

    I agree with you about the English players being overrated, but D.Beckham is world class, and I'm not even a fan of Beckham(I never liked him much).

    Robinho is very skilled and as a loot of potential, but he's also very inconsistent with his good performances. I'd say he plays 3 good games out of 6. L.Messi on the other hand is a class above the rest, he haves pace, passing, dribbling... however he isn't so good at free-kicks.

    Zidane and Kaka, are very close, maybe equally good, but they play different styles of football. Zidane relied a lot on his technique and wasn't fast(to say the least). On the other hand Kaka is very fast, dribbles well, but doesn't have Zizou's technique.


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  •  08-16-2007, 21:55 42428 in reply to 42369
    Re: Most overrated players.

    Overrated-Cannavaro-Looks lost when not playing the italian system.(In other words he needs help from a good DM or 2)

    Raul-To me he is the classic case of being overrated he always misses important goals even when the net is empty he dissappears in big games.He was a case of the national team being down n Spain needing a hero who better than someone who plays for Real Madrid...He used to be mentionted in the same breath as Figo,Zidane, and Ronaldo hes not even in the same breath at least Beckham was great at FK n Crossing the ball.

    Fernando Torres-All that money n the most hes ever scored is 14 goals....idunno......Maybe a  little spanish bias on Benitezs part.

    Lampard-Simply not worth the salary .Poor mans Gerrard.

    Beckham-Always has been and always will be.

    Cech-Hes good but not best(Buffon) on same level as Casillas n Kahn(todays Kahn)

    Pato-Noone is worth that much money at that age...Seems selfish more of a robinho.

    Underrated-Deco-Hes the Engine/Playmaker for Barca/Portugal not Xavi(look at their national team success)

    Carvalho-Best Defender in Prem last year no doubt.(Alot of Portuguese players are underrated beside Ronaldo)

    David Villa-Ill take him over Eto anyday i dont like LAZY players.

    Cambiasso-GREAT player Not many like him around.

    Mascherano-Best DM now that Viera is to old

    Essien-In my opinion best ALL AROUND MF.

    World CLass-Riquelme,C.Ronaldo,Kaka,Ribery,Nesta,Carvalho,Gerrard,Messi,Buffon,Ibrahimovic,Lucio

    In your post you listed some players that i thought just didnt get the recognition they deserve because of where they play n there where players i thought where very good not overrated but lazy.

    Unkowns/No Pub-Quaresma,Huntelaar,Van Der Vaart,Joaquin,Ribery

    Lazy/selfish-Adriano,Robinho,Eto,Ibra,Recoba

    Most Underrated Ever- RONALDO(brazilian)IMO hes absolutly the best striker EVER hes won EVERY single significant Team and Individual award(World Cup,Copa America,Champions league,Euro PLayer  of the year,World POTYr,South American POTY,Golden Boot various times,ETC)Before his MAJOR MAJOR injury he could shoot with both feet very well and could outrun anyone.I feel 2 events prevented him from receiving his due...1.The Knee Injury...2.The Seedorf issue........Although I admit hes turned into everything i hate in a player (lazyness,a;ways complaining about somethng)I have to give him his due.

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  •  08-16-2007, 22:22 42432 in reply to 42349
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    One last thing......lets not go crazy about KaKa over a couple of champions league games cause last year at this time there wasnt anyone comparing him to Zidane......1 year does not make a career....Kaka is not even the best player in the world right now.......RONALDINHO is BY FAR AND AWAY THE BEST.....You CANNOT watch them both play and tell me Kaka is better .......Kaka is C.Ronaldos level right now considering the 3 year age difference i think Ronaldo will become the better player and Messi will also be better than Kaka.....with Quaresma being a SERIOUS wildcard.

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  •  08-17-2007, 5:10 42506 in reply to 42428
    Re: Most overrated players.

    I agree with you about Cannavaro, in fact I mention it in a post, but I don't think is fair to call him overrated (he's just not as good as people think).

    Raúl used to be in the same class of Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, Beckham... and with good reason, because he was a great player back then. He had technique, a great scoring record, dribbling, passing.. he was like a Spanish H.Larsson. But now it's obvious he's past his time, I think Real should give Soldado more chances so he can develop into somethig like Raúl. Although I doubt he'll ever be as good as Raúl was.

    In my opinion Beckham is world class, it's true he doesn't have great dribbling skills or impressive speed, but look at all his assists from crosses and free-kicks... that's without mentioning his free-kick goals. I think most people are a little hard on Beckham, and I'm not even a fan of the guy (I don't like players who don't have good dribbling skills).

    If you haven't seen Joaquin play, you're missing one of the most entertaining players around. He is one of the best dribblers I have ever seen, I mean he literally haves the ball glued to his feet, and haves great acceleration and speed. He's something like C.Ronaldo, but with more elegance.

     I never saw Ronaldo playing at his best, unfortunately, but the man displays the skills of a world class player. He was and still is a great player, but I don't see why would any one think he's underrated; Three times world player of the year(a record he shares only with Zidane)... how is that underrated?

     

     


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  •  08-17-2007, 5:36 42508 in reply to 42432
    Re: Most overrated players.

    I rate Kaka very highly indeed, but is just that I think the player haves everithing a class act can possibly have; very high speed, close controll, great technique, good stamina, good physique, great dribbling, great passing, great shooting... this player is unmarkable and is getting better with time. Zidane on the other hand is the most elegant player of all time, but he didn't have the speed to pull out some of the things Kaka does. Zizou was the kind of player that could controll a game via his unique technique, he could also dribble two or three players if he wanted, but he wasn't fast enough to dribble an entire team as Kaka or Messi. By the way one of my favourite players is Zidane.

    I think people should compare players that play the same brand of football, like for ex. Zidane and Riquelme, or Riquelme and Valderrama, or Maradona and Messi, Kaka and C.Ronaldo, etc... 


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  •  08-17-2007, 7:29 42509 in reply to 42428
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    Talking about the most underrated player ever, I really don't think it's down to only one player. However I have a couple of players in mind that I think were of the most underrated as far as I know... 

    First, Roberto Baggio; whon both World Player of the Year and European Player of the Year in 1993. Then he carried Italy all the way to the 1994 World Cup final, were they lost in penalties against Brazil, after that final Romário was named as the player of the tournament wich he really didn't deserve because he was helped a lot by partner in crime Bebeto... After that World Cup ignorant people or a lot of people stated that Baggio was never the same, that he was really overrated and that his time of glory had passed. Those are lies, Baggio continued to perform with the same class until the end of his carrier, what really holded him down were his numerous injuries and his problems with coaches/managers... you can ask any Italian who's the best between Baggio, Totti and Del Piero, and most of them will answer you that Baggio is a class above them, Maradona himself said it...   (he also scored over 200 goals in the Italian Liga A, not an easy feat)

    The other one that came to my mind was Carlos Valderrama; most people think it's absurd comparing him with the likes of Zidane, Totti... but if you really think about it, Valderrama was never given a chance in a big team, neither had the luxury Zidane or Totti had at their disposal. El Pibe played almost all of his carrier in Colombia, he got to Europe when he was 28 years old and joined a modest french team(don't remember the name of the team, think is Montpellier). During his time with the french club(Montpellier) they won the french cup(the second most important cup in France), overcoming Lyon and the other big teams of france... One of the main reasons for that trophy was C.Valderrama, the other was E.Cantona... Cantona later said that Valderrama was in his all-time team, wich coming from a player who thought Zidane wasn't so good means a big deal. He was also the main reason  Colombia equalised against Germany in World Cup 1990, in fact Colombia was the only team who didn't lost against Germany in that World Cup. After that he joined Real Valladolid, another small team, and then moved to the MLS. What could he possibly achieved with a big team? I can't say for sure, but my guess is that he could've been as good or better than Totti. 

    Other most underrated players? maybe H.Larsson, G.Zola, M.Le Tissier...(I'm sure I forgot a few)


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  •  08-17-2007, 8:31 42522 in reply to 42509
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    Le Tissier was underrated for sure as well as zola. Larsson proved he could play outside of the scottish league with barca and playd great for man u on his short loan spell.

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  •  08-17-2007, 14:53 42554 in reply to 42522
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    .Thats what being overrated is when people say that your better than you really are.....I dunno i see Raul as an overrated player to me he only won when was surrounded by great  players........As for Valderrama ...........Riquelme is better to me.....And you said he didnt hve the weapons?In france a team with cantona n valderrama is good enough.....Totti is also overrated dont get me wrong hes very talented and better than valderrama but in my opinion hes also very incosistent and against a physical teeam i dont think hes tough enough ......deco,G.Hagi,Stoichkov,Rui Costa,P.Scholes etc all better....id compare him more to Veron than anyone else...

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